Frequently Asked Questions
About NYC Mesh
Why is NYC Mesh building a community network?
Below are just a few of the reasons to join and support NYC Mesh:
- We are building an infrastructure commons that is accessible to all New Yorkers
- We are a neutral network that does not block or discriminate content or throttle data
- We do not collect personal data
- We’re committed to bridging the Digital Divide by connecting underserved communities in New York online
- We stand in opposition to the telecom oligopoly in New York of Verizon, Optimum and Spectrum
- We are building a resilient emergency community network (for the next hurricane)
- We are decentralized, with no single point of failure as an organization or network
- We believe in building community and supporting highly localized websites and services
- We offer public wi-fi hotspots across the network
- We allow for fast uploads as well as downloads, so members of our community can serve content and services rather than only consume them from centralized hosts
How does it work?
Many NYC Mesh community members have wireless routers mounted on a rooftop or balcony to connect to other buildings, forming a network. Other installs, such as Grand Street Guild, use fiber in the ground to connect.
Our network peers (connects) with many other networks inside data centers, using an internet exchange point (IXP) connection. This gives us direct access to the Internet without paying a commercial Internet Service Provider. NYC Mesh maintains a number of fiber connected sites that we call “Supernodes”.
Can I use my NYC Mesh connection to get online?
NYC Mesh provides an independent, fast, and reliable connection to the Internet that is accessible to all New Yorkers.
Our community actively monitors the health of the network, and responds quickly to service requests.
Is the Mesh secure?
By default, our mesh router is firewalled from your local network. It is not possible to reach beyond the mesh router to your local access network (LAN).
The mesh internet connection to your apartment is secure using standard WPA2 encryption. Traffic between nodes on the mesh is also encrypted using WPA2. We also support VPN connections for an additional layer of security.
When connecting through the mesh from the street you should use the same standard precautions as you would when connecting to WiFi at a coffee shop or airport: use https (lock icon) web sites for secure connections (most browsers do this by default nowadays), or use a VPN service.
What is your user data policy?
NYC Mesh does not collect, store, or log any user traffic or content that passes through our network.
NYC Mesh may periodically look at traffic headers for troubleshooting purposes as traffic passes through the NYC Mesh network, however, this data is never logged or stored. NYC Mesh may collect aggregate statistics to monitor traffic flow to ensure a successful network.
The NYC Mesh network is unencrypted, easy to join, and depends on donated internet from individuals and other companies which is outside the control of NYC Mesh, therefore NYC Mesh is unable to detect or prevent traffic monitored at those access points.
NYC Mesh will comply with all laws in the jurisdictions where it operates; however, as per our community policy, no data is collected or stored, and therefore no data exists to provide to agents who request it.
Here is our privacy-policy
Why is NYC Mesh building a community network?
Below are just a few of the reasons to join and support NYC Mesh:
- We are building an infrastructure commons that is accessible to all New Yorkers
- We are a neutral network that does not block or discriminate content or throttle data
- We do not collect personal data
- We’re committed to bridging the Digital Divide by connecting underserved communities in New York online
- We stand in opposition to the telecom oligopoly in New York of Verizon, Optimum and Spectrum
- We are building a resilient emergency community network (for the next hurricane)
- We are decentralized, with no single point of failure as an organization or network
- We believe in building community and supporting highly localized websites and services
- We offer public wi-fi hotspots across the network
- We allow for fast uploads as well as downloads, so members of our community can serve content and services rather than only consume them from centralized hosts
How does it work?
Many NYC Mesh community members have wireless routers mounted on a rooftop or balcony to connect to other buildings, forming a network. Other installs, such as Grand Street Guild, use fiber in the ground to connect.
Our network peers (connects) with many other networks inside data centers, using an internet exchange point (IXP) connection. This gives us direct access to the Internet without paying a commercial Internet Service Provider. NYC Mesh maintains a number of fiber connected sites that we call “Supernodes”.
Can I use my NYC Mesh connection to get online?
NYC Mesh provides an independent, fast, and reliable connection to the Internet that is accessible to all New Yorkers.
Our community actively monitors the health of the network, and responds quickly to service requests.
Is the Mesh secure?
By default, our mesh router is firewalled from your local network. It is not possible to reach beyond the mesh router to your local access network (LAN).
The mesh internet connection to your apartment is secure using standard WPA2 encryption. Traffic between nodes on the mesh is also encrypted using WPA2. We also support VPN connections for an additional layer of security.
When connecting through the mesh from the street you should use the same standard precautions as you would when connecting to WiFi at a coffee shop or airport: use https (lock icon) web sites for secure connections (most browsers do this by default nowadays), or use a VPN service.
What is your user data policy?
NYC Mesh does not collect, store, or log any user traffic or content that passes through our network.
NYC Mesh may periodically look at traffic headers for troubleshooting purposes as traffic passes through the NYC Mesh network, however, this data is never logged or stored. NYC Mesh may collect aggregate statistics to monitor traffic flow to ensure a successful network.
The NYC Mesh network is unencrypted, easy to join, and depends on donated internet from individuals and other companies which is outside the control of NYC Mesh, therefore NYC Mesh is unable to detect or prevent traffic monitored at those access points.
NYC Mesh will comply with all laws in the jurisdictions where it operates; however, as per our community policy, no data is collected or stored, and therefore no data exists to provide to agents who request it.
Here is our privacy-policy
Joining the Community
How do I sign up to get connected?
After reading through the FAQs, fill out the join form to be assigned a Potential Node, and look for an email with next steps (check your email spam folder or contact us directly at install@nycmesh.net if you don’t receive any reply).
If you would like to volunteer with NYC Mesh, reach out on Slack or join us at our monthly meetup.
Is there a cost to join?
For members who live in some buildings, like Grand St Guild or The Olmstead we have special arrangements for your building's install fee. Please reach out to our support or see the documentation for your building for your exact install fee.
We believe EVERYONE should be able to connect online. That said, the wireless equipment we use to connect you and your neighbors does cost money and we ask that everyone who has the financial means to contribute do so, which allows us to invest in expanding the network and connecting more New Yorkers.
If you do a DIY install, you can purchase and install the equipment on your own. (We can still help you determine what equipment will be best for your specific location and lend assistance in the #diy-install-support channel of our Slack.
We suggest the following to help cover our costs: Average Equipment Cost: $240 (the actual cost of the equipment!) Install Leader Expenses: $50 Total: $290
If you’re unable to cover the full cost of equipment, we encourage you to contribute the below, which is subsidized through the contributions of your fellow NYC Mesh members:
Subsidized Equipment Cost: $110 Install Leader Expenses: $50 Total: $160
OR
Installment: $40 per month for 6 months Install Leader Expenses: $50
NYC Mesh believes that the Internet is for everyone. If the above suggested donations are too much for you to afford, please let us know at help@nycmesh.net and we’ll get you connected nonetheless.
If we are not able to connect you for any reason, there is no suggested donation though it’s not bad policy to thank (or tip) the volunteer who schlepped a bunch of equipment across town.
If you can afford it, we also recommend that you set up a recurring monthly donation of $20, $30, $50, $60. We rely on these donations to maintain and expand our network. We are all volunteers to 100% of these contributions go to building and maintaining the network.
I heard that NYC Mesh is free Internet. Is that true?
NYC Mesh costs money and time to operate and maintain. We don’t require anyone to contribute, but we rely on recurring monthly donations from our community to maintain and expand our network.
What are my obligations as a member of the NYC Mesh community?
By joining the Mesh you are obliged to share and extend the Mesh in the same way that it was shared with you. This is covered in the Network Commons License that you agreed to when joining the Mesh.
At a minimum, this requires providing power to your rooftop router so that other members can connect to it. (It uses less power in a whole day than it takes to lightly toast a slice of bread). We may also request access to your rooftop after the initial installation in order to upgrade the rooftop router infrastructure. You are not obligated to pay a monthly fee although we suggest a recurring donation if you can afford it to help keep the network running and growing.
How can I volunteer? What if I don’t know anything about networking?
NYC Mesh welcomes people with diverse skill sets and from all backgrounds. Many of our volunteers started without any technical background. Join us at our monthly meetup or reach out to us on Slack to start a conversation about how you can contribute to our community. You can also read about some ways to help here.
I have neighbors who would also like to join NYC Mesh. Can we get connected together?
Yes! We prioritize installs for multiple apartments, and we can set up high-bandwidth point-to-point connections with dedicated hardware. If your building would like this dedicated service please email us, reach out to us on Slack, send us an email at install@nycmesh.net or call us directly at 833-NYC-MESH
Can we connect an entire building?
Yes! We will work with your management company, construction company, coop board or tenant association to make connecting your entire building easier. See our Building Install page.
Do I need to provide identification to join NYC Mesh?
NYC Mesh asks for only basic contact information to be able to carry out the install. We welcome everyone living in New York to join the community regardless of immigration status or life circumstance. If you have concerns about privacy, please send us an email at help@nycmesh.net or talk to us in person at our monthly meetup.
What is Slack and how do I use it?
Slack is the main communication and collaboration platform we use at NYC Mesh. It consists of public channels, which anyone can post messages to, and invitation-only channels, which serve specific community groups and volunteer teams. Go to the NYC Mesh Slack page to sign up for an account and join the conversation!
Getting connected to the Mesh
How can I tell if I’m in the coverage zone for NYC Mesh?
Connecting to the Internet with NYC Mesh requires a direct line-of-sight to an existing supernode or hub node. Look at our map to see if you’re either within range of a supernode or hub node, or put your address in our line-of-sight tool
If you are within range, there is a good chance you will be able to connect to NYC Mesh. Fill out the join form and we will assess your location. We will also ask you to take a picture or panorama from your balcony or rooftop.
Some additional things you can do to determine if you are in a coverage zone:
- Click on active nodes around you on the map to see if a panorama photo is available. If you can see your building in the photo, you are in the node’s coverage zone.
- Use 3D mode in Google Maps or Google Earth to see if there is a likely line of sight from your building to an active node.
How do I get roof access?
Usually we require roof access for an install. If your roof is locked, it is best to speak to your Super about getting roof access.
If you can’t get roof access you may be able to connect from your balcony if it has a good view. We don’t do window installs as they are very difficult and the results aren’t predictable.
My neighbor is connected to NYC Mesh. Can I also connect?
Yes, we usually connect multiple apartments to the same antenna on the roof. Fill in the join form and reply letting us know that the building is already connected to the Mesh.
What is the wait time for a volunteer-led installation?
Once you submit your node request form, we will request a panoramic photo from your rooftop or balcony to assess line of sight to nearby nodes and we will then invite you to schedule an appointment on our install calendar. Wait times will vary based on the availability of volunteer installers, but are usually around two weeks. If you can convince your neighbors to also join, we will put you at the top of the install list.
What is involved in a typical volunteer-led installation?
For a volunteer-led install, NYC Mesh will send a team of volunteers to your building to conduct a site survey. If we can connect to an existing node from your rooftop or balcony, we will install all the necessary hardware to get you connected to the Mesh.
Typically, installs take between two and four hours to complete, but in certain cases they can take longer. We require you to be present for the duration of the install, so we recommend that you plan to remain at your apartment for at least four hours from the start of the install. We also invite you to participate in the install so that you can learn about how your new Internet connection works.
Most installations proceed in the following order:
- Survey the apartment and rooftop
- Decide where ethernet cable should enter the apartment
- Test signal strength to confirm connection is possible
- Install mounting hardware and align router
- Run cable into apartment
- Set up indoor WiFi router
- Speed test
- Clean up
In case of bad weather conditions, we will notify you that the install has been canceled and will invite you to make a new appointment.
What will the hardware setup look like?
Here’s a diagram showing typical hardware and how it connects together.
How should I prepare before the install team arrives?
First, make sure that you will be able to be present at your apartment for at least four hours from the start of the install.
To ensure the safety of volunteer installers, please check the rooftop and the ladder or stairs to the rooftop for any obstacles or hazards. Please remove any obstacles you find and inform us of any hazards. Be prepared to lead volunteers up to the roof if you are able to safely climb the ladder or stairs yourself.
If you would like to participate in the install, please let us know and read our safety guidelines.
What happens if the install team can’t connect me to the Mesh?
If we are not able to connect you, there’s no suggested contribution though it’s not bad policy to thank (or tip) the volunteer who schlepped a bunch of equipment across town.
If we think a connection may be possible by installing a mast, mounting equipment to a neighbor’s roof or another method, we will discuss those options with you on site.
Can I install a router if I have no view or no rooftop access?
In some rare cases you might be close enough to another node to get signal without line of sight to it.
If you’re in an area that’s currently under served by NYC Mesh but can get a dozen or more of your neighbors together, you can also create your own hub or supernode which would expand the mesh further. Contact us on Slack or email us at install@nycmesh.net to discuss this option further.
If you can’t connect to any existing node yet but would still like to access community tools or content that are only available on the Mesh, you have the option of “tunneling” over the Internet by VPN.
Can I install the hardware and connect to NYC Mesh on my own (DIY)?
Yes you can. Make sure to sign up for a node by filling out our join form even if you are installing by yourself.
We provide a list of hardware you can purchase along with firmware and configuration instructions here. For guidance on hardware installation, check out our docs pages.
If you need assistance with your self-installs, reach out to us on the #diy-install-support channel on Slack.
Can I use any router to connect?
To connect to NYC Mesh you must use outdoor routers supported by NYC Mesh, which are listed here. For your indoor router, you may use any product.
Hardware, software and networking
What is a router? What is an antenna? What is a radio?
Most of the devices we use, such as a LiteBeam or NanoStation, are self-contained so they have an antenna, radio and ethernet router all in one. Ubiquiti call their self-contained AirFiber device a “radio”, other manufacturers call similar devices a router or an antenna, and “wireless router with antenna” is a real mouthful to say, so to avoid confusion, we usually call the self-contained device a router and the home WiFi router you connect your laptop and phone to the “home router” or “indoor router.”
Sector antennas used on supernodes and hub nodes may have a separate radio plugged into the back of them so we call those antennas (although some sectors are self-contained).
What is a Node? What is a Supernode? What is a Hub Node?
A node is a location with one or more routers.
A supernode is a node that has multiple routers and maybe a server too. It connects to many other nodes. Supernodes also have a fast connection (gateway) to the rest of the Internet. Supernode 1 has five sector antennas, an AirFiber24, a LiteBeam, two ethernet switches, two servers and gigabit fiber.
A hub node is an important neighborhood node that extends the mesh around it, without having it’s own gateway. Our largest hub node, 1340, has four sector antennas, two LiteBeams (in P2P mode), six access points, two ethernet routers, four powerline adapters and a “pi” computer for monitoring. A small hub may have just a LiteBeam and an OmniTik access point.
What software/firmware do you use?
We use a variety of open source and proprietary firmware. Lately we have been using a lot of OSPF and WDS to mesh things together.
Our point-to-point connections use factory firmware such as AirOS. The supernodes are running Linux with Bird and BGP. For network monitoring we use Grafana, UISP, UNIFI and other packages.
Everything Else
What exactly is the Internet anyway?
The Internet is a decentralized, global network of networks. No-one owns it and it is governed by voluntary agreements between network owners. For an easy-to-read introduction to how the Internet works, check out this article.
Why don’t we mesh mobile phones instead of routers?
Our focus at the moment is to connect buildings and expand an open, neutral, resilient, and affordable broadband network that connects to the wider Internet. Mobile “mesh” networks are very low bandwidth, not real-time, and require phones to connect in close range. They are great for events or some emergency situations, and we’re happy to see them developed alongside our project, but consider them out of our scope for now.
How far can the mesh extend? Could it cover the whole country?
Yes, it could. In Spain there is a mesh network called Guifi that covers a large part of the country. In order to do this, they have a backbone of many long distance WiFi connections and also community-owned fiber.
Blockchain?
Why aren’t you doing this obvious thing I just thought of?
We have a lot on our to-do list and everyone is a volunteer. We welcome new ideas big and small, but the best way to move ideas forward is for you to take initiative to help implement them.
Our community on Slack is a great forum for new ideas, and you can also start a conversation with long-term and new members at one of our meetups.